Anyone want to farm Voltaics?
It might be time to sell high, and buy low. I imagine it won't be too long that voltaics go the way of colossal scimitars...... Anyway, post 55. The renewal build using SH spam might make things go faster, anyone up for a try?

Yup, I'll go. Sounds fun to me :D

I would, but I have done this so many times, there is the odds of getting a voltaic is still very low. To get to Thomas with a normal team at the door is about 14-17 minutes. I think the farm you could do with all heros as well. Just seems like a lot of micro managment of heros for if fact little time saved. Just do Slavers a lot and it may drop. I have seen them drop in Thomas, Rand, and Forge, but not Selve.

The idea, though, is that you can farm it 2-3 times in the same amount of time it would take to complete that dungeon.

Did some with a PuG after we did ours today. I was the sin. The group stayed further back so that I could put Thommis in that corner. Once he was in that corner they all came forward and dropped him. We did this 4 times with an average time of 4-6 minutes.

Ran HM for some Pugs... Its alot more challenging in HM and I question whether its better to do 2 normal mode runs vs 1 hm run. Once I pull everyone to the wall in HM, I usually die from Death Novas going off. Once I die and I have a death penalty, there is a great chance of me dying again on my way back around the back. It starts going downhill from there. It is very important that the monks keep me alive on my first pull rather than having to take my chances running back with a DP. Fastest run I had in hm was 9 minutes...didnt help that one of the monks brought a bonder build, claiming it would help keep the sin alive. Then he never even bonded me anyway. Also perma sins are in very high demand in Umbral...I'm surprised since it seems that everyone has a perma sin these days. This is the build I used OwZTgY/8ZS6jHRn5usBimMNLgBA 12 Air Magic - glyph of swiftness will work for shadow form + dwarven stability + feigned neutrality 3 Deadly Arts 16 Shadow Arts perma with Dwarven Stability, Dark Escape, I am Unstoppable, Feigned Neutrality, and Vipers Defense. If I was going to change anything I would take out Vipers Defense and add Deaths Charge. Deaths Charge has a heal and shadow step but its a 30 seconds recharge. If you get body blocked Vipers Defense has a 10 second recharge so its easier to escape. This is becoming a very widespread farming run and I would be surprised if it doesnt get fixed sometime soon.

I think I will PUG up until others are interested in teaming up. I hope that they will accept a Necro.

After doing a few HM pugs...I'm convinced its better to go NM just because the success rate is so much higher. More than once I did my part as the sin only to watch the entire team wipe repeatedly. If we could get a group like we had last night I would like to try just having everyone keep back until the baddies are in the corner. If we can get a rythm going we could do some fast runs. Another problem with the pugs is after almost every run someone leaves and you have to sit around finding someone to fill their spot.

Had several good HM runs until I had the spawn from Hell. I also did not have alcohol, and was using Dwaven Stability. Full Human team is by far much easier in HM, we had 6 Ele, 1 Mo, and 1 Sin. I think HM does take a bit longer, so not sure its any more efficient. Kinda fun doing for now, but I feel somehow sad. Getting tons of golds, diamonds, and onlyx. Prices will significantly drop.

The reqs on the golds are better in HM. The skins are ok, but not great. I am sure that this will die down after the new flavor of the month is identified. A discord team works as well as a nuker team, in NM, just don't bring any minion skills. The discord team is much more consistant and is set up with some healing all ready. Better balance between offense and defense IMO. Would like to try discord in HM to see how well it works there. Be sure to take out the Rngers when they are close enough. We had one as the last man standing, and it was difficult to get him close enough to the wall to finish him off.

WTS Q12 Voltaic Spear. Please buy before they are worthless!

Grats! :)

Just my luck doing well over a hundred and never got a voltaic, had to buy mine. Get Cyvil in my group last night and the Lucky (correction:EASY) Key of Cyvils kicks in and 2 Voltaics drop one for Cyvil and one for another team member. I am using up alcohol like crazy doing these runs, so may need to buy some. I had a stack of 250 and down to less than 150 now.

It is the Easy Button. Staples sells them. Oh, and you have to hold your mouth just right.

Gerg I have been doing it without alcohol and now that I am recharging shadow form in the right location. It is going quite well without it. TWO dropped in the same run?!? WOW I have seen 1 drop so far, but it was for some other dude far less deserving :P