Cyvil, I think your post had the slashdot affect on the site ... :0 I would sure like to try.

I can do the sig of removal necro if we try it out : )

I will not be around this weekend, but I would prefer not to monk. I can do either of the Paragons, of the ele. I would tend to think that my Kurzick rank would push me towards the Imbagon. Rank 4 Kurzick has the same duration as rank 9 (which kinda cheeses me off). My Paragon does not have Drunken Master, but I prefer Spear of Fury anyway (I will be the first to complain that the team build is obviously flawed if it cannot withstand my seemingly random preferences).

I have an Ele or Monk

I can do any of the classes. I am a little suspicious of the team build especially at critical junctures such as the Gloom Cave.

Start with gloom, see how it goes. If it doesn't work as advertised, resign (or wipe). The real trick is to keep bias' out of the equation and realize, when something doesn't work, that it could be operator error. There are simply too many possible team combinations for me to believe that Ursan and Trinity are the only answers. Look at Sheep, JET and Random. They completed areas with 6 heroes. I have to believe that a perty full of non UB PvE skills can take less time. I'll bet thet JET, Sheep and Random did not use many, if any, consumables.

I would be happy to give it a shot. Could bring a monk or ele. My ele has max rank in all PVE skills except Kurzick. I think I would also have fun playing the Divert Hexes monk. I believe this could work. All of the PVE only skills are so powerful. I dont know if it could really be faster than ursan but I would really like to see how it goes. I imagine attempting this for the first time there would be some growing pains and it would be alot slower than when a team is comfortable with it. If we did get it under control I would like to do 1 or more runs per week if there was enough interest. Consumables would certainly still be very helpful...

I think there are many teams builds that can do DOA, especially since HM/NM change, for me that's really not the question. The real question is it as fast and if it proves very fast, then how fast can we promote this and then how fast can teams form. I would like the game to be less time forming teams and balancing skills and more time playing the game. p.s. I still would like to take an Imbagon team through it again. But we can try that another time but here is one of the builds:http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:Team_-_PvE_5_Physicals

I am willing to give a try, the only thing though is - do we have to use consets..? It would not be good to not use them but if we fail then we waste our money. But I am all in, I can be the axe warrior. (Thats all I can be) I have all the skills to do it, just give me the date and ill be there ;)

If just a few of us are interested, we can always try a Sabway variant.http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10316998 Why stick with Ursan when there are so many other possibilities, that are probably more interesting to play?

I think a discord varient may work well given a few adjustments. This build is similar to that and may work even better with more discord elites.

If single target spikes are ok, Discord will work. I still like Icy Veins, and need to try that (2-3 Discord +1 IV) on a team. Icy Veins is fairly powerful itself, and the AoE damage is a bonus. IV is spammable, does not need condion + hex or enchant, but does a little less damage.

Yeah Icy Veins may be good in combination with Discord. Looking over this build I think the only critical Human piece is the Imbagon. The rest I think could be done by heros. The Dervish could likely be another front line class as well that has high lightbringer with appropriate skills. If you are LB 8 do your Heros get this benefit as well? I bet not, so it would be good to bring a high DPS frontliner, such as a Warrier, Devish, or maybe even an Assassin.